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January 25, 2008

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Some time in the future, if we have another massive drop in the markets, and rates are 1/2% what will the Fed do (and what will Larry Kudlow say) The "gun" will be empty ( or with one dud shell).... WHAT THEN?.... THINK JAPAN.

So we are a debtor nation and a nation of debtors. That makes unravelling rather difficult – any serious deflation would make banks, Wall St and homeowners insolvent. How the battle between a sinking economy and an activist Fed – trying to re-flate – plays out is an interesting exercise. One possible outcome is massive price inflation – as money sometimes goes where you don't want it to go.

Michael -- as you know *THE* debate in the Doom Enthusiast Community is if the FED can create enough monetary aggregates to levitate asset and consumer prices. In the 1930s we did not need to import so much or spend so much -- hard to compare -- the Powers That Be had different issues also.

We all know what B-52 BEN has said:

http://www.federalreserve.gov/boardDocs/speeches/2002/20021121/default.htm

The question is: will the inflation bomb go pfffft..???? Or can the FED really overpower everyone and everything with net positive inflation???

""As a Keynesian, I'd say the biggest back for the buck in terms of immediate stimulus would be unemployment assistance and tax rebates for the poor."

Thinly veiled Marxism. Pay people to be unemployed and take tax money from the rich and give it to people who pay no taxes.

Bottom Line: The average Joe six pack is a baby boomer quickly running out of time. His single largest asset, his primary residence, is deflating rapidly. This single largest asset is also the primary collateral for his single largest liability. His balance sheet is rapidly deflating as all his assets, from his home to his equity portfolio, all simultaneously deflate while his debt outstanding may actually still be increasing. His debt servicing are costs not dropping, despite aggressive rate cuts, and may actually be rising. It has also become damn near impossible to refinance certain mortgages as easy credit evaporates. On top of that, Joe six pack should now be seriously concerned about his job security. So when a cheque for $300 to $1500 arrives in the mail, Joe six pack is not going to spend it on a $200 steak dinner or a new computer or on a vacation. Got it people?

More on the stimulous package: (http://benbittrolff.blogspot.com/2008/01/fact-sheet-bush-stimulous-package.html)

TheFinancialNinja

Everybody flunked accounting:
Commercial Banks as a system don’t loan out anything. They create money when they make loans
Money creation is not self-regulating
You can’t take money out of the banking system (only the FED can)
Savings transferred through the intermediaries never leaves the CB system. The intermediaries/non-banks are the customers of the CBs.
Savings held within the commercial banking system are lost to investment or to any other type of expenditure.
From the standpoint of the economy the banks shouldn’t pay for something they already have. Payments on CB savings raise all interest rates, induce disintermediation among the financial intermediaries, shrink real-gdp, & decrease CB profits.
The proper long-term solution to our non-bank problem is to get the money creating depository institutions out of the savings business. Then long-term rates would come down.

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