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October 09, 2008

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While in general I sort of agree with the premises espoused here. You have really missed the really big elephant that has appeared in the room in the part of CDS Credit Default Swaps which have now been shown to be a way bigger house of cards that our Real Estate mess. Probably 100 times grater leverage against 0 reserves or assets.
Tom Brander

Actually, I have not missed "the really big elephant" at all. The threat posed by derivatives in general, and CDS's in particular, is a key theme of my book (which was first published in the spring of last year). I've also covered the subject many times on this blog.

What I didn't see mentioned about "demographics" is the aging of the population. Census bureau stats tell us as the population ages, it slows its spending and increases savings. (Check out Japan in about 1989-90--the population there at that time was "aging", like the US is now.) Combine that with the LACK OF SAVINGS in the US recently, job losses and equity loss in their homes, you can imagine the problems we are likely to face in the next 20-30 years.

Then let's add in the fact that SS and Medicare, as well as pensions have been heavily underfunded. What do we have? A Depression or long rolling recessions for the next 25 or so years.

I just want to add that Mike Panzer has saved me 10's of 1,000's of dollars. After reading his book, I started last year (about this time) moving my retirement $ slowly out of stocks. I completed the moves in about May of this year. Fortunately, I have no debt other than my mortgage at 5.6%.

Seriously, a BIG THANK YOU! With all the turmoil going on, I live not in fear, but with the comfort of knowledge that no matter how bad things get, at least I have an idea what is going on, and why.

Well, it's all well and good to preach gloom and doom, but that can be just as much a part of the problem and is rarely part of the solution. I didn't risk a dime in the market, but now with the potential for a major job decline, it looks like I'll certainly pay for the mistakes of those that did.

So preach away, but how do people survive it? How does the government or the market turn it around? What can be done? It's honestly pretty easy to tell everyone how much something sucks, but that really just makes you part of the problem. The world doesn't need more doom and gloom economists, they need people to step up and offer solutions and help people, not drive their fears ever deeper.

@Steve, if you are interested in reading a great book that deals with this very topic, try reading, "Plunder," by Danny Schechter. He does point out some of the reasons as to why we are in the mess we are in now, but does offer some brilliant ideas of how these mistakes can be fixed. The link to the book's website is http://www.newsdissector.com/plunder/. I just finished reading it and it has been a huge eye opener to me.

TJB,

Your post is based on the assumption that things can be fixed now. They can't. People and governments are in too much debt. Things are not going to be the same as they were a few years ago, period. The doom and gloom economists were warning about this years ago when something could have been done, like ensuring people could pay back loans or keeping interest rates high enough to encourage saving and discourage excessive borrowing. But people didn't want to listen.

If you want to know how to survive, check out this blog in more depth. There are many, many other blogs with insights too. It will give you some ideas what YOU can do to save yourself. If that isn't appealing, well don't worry. Everything will be alright. Stay the course and keep your eye on the ball. These things always turn around. The government will soon have this mess contained and we'll be heading for a bright future.

The figure of 18 million vacant homes is somewhat misleading. Looking at this graph http://www.housingbubblebust.com/HsgData/CB/Existing/USHsgVacant.html , we see that as of 2002, before the bubble, there were as many as 15 million vacant homes.

My take is that the vast majority of those are abandoned and unihabitable and won't influence anything. (The bad news is that this makes the increas since then bigger in percentage terms.)

Today, a fifth of all mortgages would be about 10 million loans, and 14 percent of outstanding mortgage values is about $1.4 trillion -- approximately the total of all subprime mortgage loans.

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