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October 28, 2008

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Mike

Another great piece. Thanks for bringing Phil's work (whom I was not familiar with) to my attention. Much appreciated!

HD
Prudens Speculari

Sustained reduction in consumption,in mortgage equity,
credit maxed out etc... all point to a financial Armageddon
or depression this is old stuff,what we need to explain is
the $ bubble,the mother of all bubbles.
(in the depression area we had: 25 % unemployment,wages down 42%
world trade down 65%), we are not there yet but don't despair.

Thanks Michael, interesting article.

I do find one part I disagree with, and wonder how it would change his opinion of potential circumstances: "It seems to me that the Fed’s lending is going into the banks to shore up their liquidity but is not being pushed through to the lending side; akin to pushing on a string. I can see few circumstances where banks are likely to increase their lending any time soon or where consumers will be able to take on additional debt (and be able to pay it back)."

I actual fact, the funds going to the cronies of Paulson are hoarding it (I guess that could also be construed as "increasing liquidity"), looking for other corporations to purchase to "grow market share." CEO Dimon was so quoted.(And he is receiving death threats, go figure)

So even assuming they are using it to "shore up liquidity", it doesn't answer the question: What will they do AFTER they have "built it up"? Use it to buy other companies, with funds fraudulently attained by LYING to the US public, portraying it as first a bailout, then a "RESCUE" of the economy? Wonder how many times they will have to go to that well before Sammy The Unemployed Taxi Driver goes postal on them? After it hits 3 trillion, 4,...10??

While soup lines grow longer and people live in parking lots, Goldman consolidates all of Wall Street Investment banks?? Hahahaha, good luck pulling that off.

Even Ned The Newspaper Salesman dodging cars and sniffing diesel fumes on the corner will figure that one out shortly.

Especially in light of the recent news the Fed may LOWER interest rates again: How long before even low IQ "Joe Six-Packs" figures out that lower interest rates DOESN'T MEAN TO MAINSTREET AMERICANS!!! See your credit card interest rates ever falling????

No, I disagree, there will be no increase in savings rate, UNTIL they RAISE the interest rates to reflect the hard work it is to scrimp and save, AND pay a decent interest rate to us peasants that can't FUCKING PRINT the money we need. Hell, the article even states the savings rate peaked in the 70's: it is because we got 14% T-Bills for being frugal. You would THINK SOMEONE would listen to Paul Volcker, fer crissakes.

I have stated in print since the 2001 "tax breaks for billionaires" that this administration's goal was to create a Wiemar Dollar Redux, and I stand by that assertion.

No, this money being printed up by the hundreds of billions isn't going to "build up liquidity": They are criminally being printed up and distributed to CRIMINALS to ENRICH themselves, at US Citizen expense. Bottom line

It means only those poor poor "Financial Titan" millionaires and billionaires needing "Rescue" from their atrocious greed will receive this "Bail out." The rest of us either get a bellyfull of this BS and do something about it, or go into Financial Slavery.

End The Fed, and Hang. Them. Now. Yes yes, of course, after a trial. In Guantanamo, with attorneys we appoint. After they have stewed there in the Cuban sun blindfolded for 5 or 6 years.....

....I couldn't have said it any better, farang, without jeopardizing my relatively calm, cool Wednesday morning...

MP:
I can't make a credible case for deflation.

Farang:
I have advocated repealing the Federal Reserve Act for 28 years. Welcome aboard. If we do ever hold a "Texas necktie party" for the Wall Street miscreants, after a trial, of course, I'll be sure to invite you to the festivities. Beer, hot dogs and barbeque for all!

Paul Krugman !?!?! I am disappointed. Come on...the guy is an idiot, to say the least. He recently praised (and thought it to be a good model for everyone else to follow) the British Govt. for their infinitely stupid plan of exposing their sovereign balance sheet to all the bad loans that the big banks have made, thus guaranteeing failure of not only banks but nation-states, aka Iceland, in the near future.

Andy: I used to think Krugman was an idiot too. I've changed my mind after watching the Bush administration absolutely destroy any vestiges of a capitalist system in this country. I listen to Krugman now. Wish I would have earlier.

"Based on traditional technical analysis measures this would suggest a possible low-point of 50 for the S&P 500. Impossible you say. Well this is not far off the equivalent 400 level for the Dow that Robert Prechter has been suggesting for some years now."

In the above quote, is the 50 for S&P and 400 for DOW a typo? I don't see how his analysis leads to these results; maybe 500 and 4,000? Anyone have an opinion on this point? Any responses would be appreciated.

As excellent as this article is, as is, apparently, SOP in financial blogs, it blithely ignores the tyrannasaurus rex in the room. Matthew Simmons (consider him the Roubini of peak oil) recently predicted worldwide petroleum liguids production by 2015 will, at best, be no more than 65 mbpd. From the current 85 mbpd.

Worldwide petroleum production, essentially flat since may of 2005, will, in a year, be moving past the shoulder of that plateau and into precipitous decline.

What would the above scenarios look like if, over the next 7 years, an amount of oil equal to all the oil the United States consumes was removed from the market?

How many democracies will survive that? What will the financial markets look like when the world economy is contracting 5% per year? What will the US economy look like? Or our political landscape?

And that's not even taking into account the massively accelerating effects of global warming.

Seeing the Light:Does attending a reputable school of economics
make you a better trained person? Is reputation even a Nobel Prize
winner make you more knowledgeable?from my experience absolutely
not!I'm just an old retired frt.with a minimum of schooling and
yet my judgment was far ahead of some of these so called professional
experts such as Friedman/Greenspan & others.So tell me What the hell
is intelligence?

Of course, like Diogenes, you will recognize that honest man when you find him.

Oh wait,...Krugman?

Your lamp needs more oil.

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