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April 05, 2009

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1. Oh no! Retirement age extended to 62! Please. You're meant to live 10 years in retirement, not 30. An extension of the age is way overdue. It should be 70 or 75.
2. Many people (granted, not everyone) want to continue working. Extending the age prevents you from being forced out.
3. Maybe (but probably not) knowing that you're going to have a longer working career will motivate you to take better care of yourself, which is also overdue.
4. It's silly to extrapolate doomsday funding scenarios based on a temporarily depressed market. Granted, the Dow won't hit 14,000 tomorrow, but it also won't be <8000 forever.

The sad thing is that young people will never see any pension or social security. They are merely paying for the people that are currently getting benefits.

You need to plan like you will not get these social benefits.

The "old age pension" in Britain is currently payable at 60 (women) and 65 (men). It is currently en route to 68 (both). I'll bet that before it reaches 68 it starts on its journey to 70.

The govt. is engaged with banks to keep the information from the people - because they are afraid of bank runs?? I doubt it - They will drain as much out of the system as possible before letting the scam go. Wm. Black says AIG bailout was used to bailout banks such as goldman sachs - (also advisers to bailout plan) - Black says they will not tell the truth to the people -
Govt works with regulators to ensure there is no regulation - so we have a moral crisis - When govt refuses to govern with integrity and the information is kept from the populace, then citizens are victims - they should not be called sheople- attacking fellow citizens will get us nowhere.

There is lots of blame to go around but attacking the victims of a corrupt govt. system implies that this system responds to the will of the people - It does not - the corruption is pervasive - 9/11 shows that -
There has been a persistent effort for decades to control information that is available to the citizens, and we are all victims - But the good news is that more and more people are waking up to the fact that the emperor has no clothes (I like that cliche). That is the solution. Giving up on social security is not the solution - the crooks would love that - saying no to the bailouts is a start - If we cannot cleanup this system, it will disintegrate and that is a particularly lousy outcome.

State and local pension plans generally assume an annual investment return of about 7 to 8%. The S&P 500 has returned about -2.80% annually for the 10 year period ended April 9, 2009. Intermediate investment grade bond funds have had an annualized return of about 3.70% for the same period (http://online.wsj.com/fund/page/fund_snapshot.html?symbol=VBIIX). These returns suggest that the unfunded pension liabilities of state and local pension plans may be in the $2-$3 trillion range rather than only $1 trillion, if more realistic future annual returns are used in computing unfunded liabilities.
I wonder how long California pension plans can keep paying out benefits to retired police, prison guards and firefighters that are several times as high as the benefits paid by Social Security to retirees in the private sector? Up to now the Democrats have been in the pocket of the powerful public employee unions and the Republicans have been distracted by their crusade to stop gay marriages. The Golden State is quite tarnished.

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