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May 09, 2009

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I've just finished to read "The Great Crash" by John Kenneth Galbraith and what really surprises me is how economists nowaday, as in the late 20s, seem to be "useless" in anticipating and solving crisis. As Galbraith pointed out, there won't be any new "Great Depression". Financial and economic conditions are now totally different (rules, regulators, wealth distribution, companies structures, banking system, balance of payments...).

The Great Depression was actually a combination of massive speculation, primitive economic/financial system and political incompetence. Now, I don't see anything like that, and I'm actually impressed by the current depth of the recession, which is simply unjustified IMHO.

Confidence-building in the late 20s was uneffective because it was not based on evidence and was not supported by concrete action. Now it is. But does it help? I think so, because most of the financial collapse and the subsequent recession is based on irrational panic.

Being pessimistic is easier and makes us feel more confortable, we know that, but again, I suspect that most of the economists out there are loosing another chance to prove they may be of some value.

I agree completely with Paolo's comment. No political incompetence. Nothing of the sort!
No massive speculation. No siree!


Indeed, the regulators all have different names! Can't be the great depression!

Different rules too! (that aren't enforced).

Now there are LLCs. Did LLCs exist back then? I think not! Therefore different company structures.

The banking system is different too. For example, back then ibanks had merged with regular banks. Totally different now.

Also, America was a net exporter back then. So the balance of payments was different.

Therefore, Paolo has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there cannot be another great depression. Ever!

Note to Paolo: Don't be impressed by the depth of the recession. It is purely illusory. All those seemingly bad numbers are just the result of corrupt statisticians who want to paint a picture that is not rosy. When you look at the real numbers, you will find employment is increasing, housing is booming, and the economy is in danger of overheating.

It's time to make these knuckleheads realize that they must stop their irrational panic!

I know what you mean Paolo when you say being pessimistic makes us feel more comfortable. Whenever I'm entertaining, I spout pessimism like a fountain to make my guests feel more at home. Works every time.

I can only say that the situation in my humble opinion is indeed a depression. It is global and the world has never seen anything like the event that is unfolding.
Governments around the globe are or soon will be stimulating. This means printing money because there will be none to borrow.
Factories worldwide are shutting down. Consumers have lost confidence as have their governments.
Interest rates have to rise as risk of default is seen to increase. Look at bond yields for this evidence.
Debt costs will soar. GDP has fallen off a cliff and with it tax revenues and with that the ability to service the debt.
Unemployment will continue to soar. There is too much for an IMF to deal with. There may already be plans for a new currency in the US .
There will be massive social unrest as supplies of everything run out. There are already signs of this happening but reports by the mainstream press are being downplayed if mentioned at all.
Green shoots? The only green shoots we will see are the ones coming up thru abandoned homes and factories.

I wish I was wrong.

Betcha didn't know The Onion had a "Business" section.
Their latest, entitled "Nation Ready To Be Lied To About Economy Again," can be found at http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nation_ready_to_be_lied_to_about

Michael,

Would it be possible to add this following site to your blogroll. I'm not the owner of this site, but I have found much useful economic information on it, and thought perhaps your readers would benefit from it as well. THanks.

http://www.globaleconomiccrisis.com/blog/

Hi Michael,

Forgot to add another blog/website that I think is a wonderful economic site, its run by Jim Sinclair, who I believe is a former fed board member. Its an excellent economic website, if possible, could you please add it to your blogroll as well? Thanks!


http://jsmineset.com/

sorry, just realised that the website I posted above is already on your blogroll.
Never mind.

Interesting article, but flawed by the assumption that the peasants actually care "who was responsible" OR - even if they did care - lived in a system designed to punish the insiders.

Nope, dudes... like, dude, you're living in America, dude. Everybody is above average and waiting for the next scam to start. That's what makes America great, it's a nation of scammers that appreciates when a good scam is run, even if it's on themselves.

The "green shoots" are real; primarily because they are SO fake. American's LOVE to believe in "green shoots". DOW 14,000 dudes, I can feal it, so can the peasants.

I would add the CEO of RBS to the list of economic realists: he sees no "green shoots" sprouting anywhere, and warns against belief everything is going to quickly turn around.

Thanks for the post. It's good to see the perspective from those 'on the ground' so to speak.

I've read that Galbraith book too and recommend it.

The reality is though, there was a massive credit-fuelled bubble that inflated over the past decade - in housing, consumer spending, commodities, equities and so on. Meanwhile, overall incomes were stagnant. This was similar to the 1920s but doesn't get discussed much - the growth in income disparities, but it is this very thing that causes these big credit squeezes.

As that famous saying goes, history doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme and while indeed some things are different, a lot of the fundamental problems are pretty similar.

Very persuasive post on the reasons why we are far from an economic turn.
The government has done everything to convince us that everything is fine when, in fact, nothing has changed. Those "green shoots" of recovery are an illusion.

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