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Well done, Mike! Question that I have is approximately when, if ever, the realities on Main Street will be reflected on Wall Street? I guess that is the real $64,000 (maybe $64 Trillion?) question.

You ain't seen nothing yet. This is how the death of a way of live (the capitalist way of life) looks like. It will take globalisation with it but can we save democracy? That is really what we should be concerned about.
Stomp the corporations into the ground.

Hello! What do you think about LaRouches solution? They consider the debt illegal and that the only way out is for the largest nations to join in a new credit system.

http://larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=11734

"A gaping 'whole' in world demand", Mike? A Freudian slip?

Stock markets are supposed to discount the good news and the bad in advance. Economic cycles and market cycles rarely converge. The fact that a 1929 like collapse has been averted - whether by nationalizing financial institutions, or by printing dollars - is good enough reason for punters to buy.

Subhankar: I don't know much about international finance, but I do know a lot
about history. A young, brash, upcoming journalist named Henry Luce, who founded
an upstart, young magazine called Time in the mid 1920's, noted that after the
crash, the bankers seemed to own three fourths of the industrial sector of the
United States. The grandsons of those bankers are still on the boards and
rosters of the major corporations today; rolling in and out of contracting
government positions like a smooth game of musical chairs. It took a world war
to solidify their positions, and a few wars after that, but history does not
mince the truth, and once the people's business is nationalized , any reasonably
informed person knows what comes next.

Credit to spend and credit to invest in production
are two different things. Greenspan acerbated the
problem ,but he did not create it. US consumers
bought foreign products on credit with borrowed money,
THIS IS CALLED POWERING GLOBAL GROWTH ??
We have a glut of manufacturing plants ( yes true )
so then its a matter of distribution, ho no that would
be socialism ( dirty word ).Capital & trade imbalance,
now there,s a bone to pick on.Seems to me,most economist
who are part of the Establishment are still in LALA
LOLO LULU land

Alexandra.
I do not know where you live but I will guarantee it is not a Democracy. 100% Guarantee.
The United Soviet Socialist States of America have never been a democracy. Since 1913 the USSSA has been ruled by Monetary Tyranny.
Stomp on the Corporations Alex?? Why not elect Representatives who are decent people rather than corrupt scum instead??
regards

when the people fear their government you have tyranny.
when the government fear the people you have democracy.

Hi, Michael. Looks like we're both playing "Are we here?" - my thesis is we're in the mid-Seventies: on the threshold of a stockmarket boom that becomes so undermined by inflation that in real terms it's a collapse (http://theylaughedatnoah.blogspot.com/2009/09/2020-hindsight-and-coming-stock.html) Suggest people both sides the Atlantic look at inflation-indexed government savings bonds, but after doing that? Land? Is that the real reason why Buffett and Soros bought into railways a while back?

@Marion: I'm no exert in finance or economy - just a stock market investor. The ultra-conservative and bureaucratic nationalized banks have been one of the main reasons for the stunted growth of the Indian economy. The same banks also saved the country from the global economic collapse precipitated by the likes of Lehman Brothers, Citi, AIG et al, by not allowing the kind of financial jugglery that leads to asset bubbles.

Subhankar: As I understand what happened, it wasn't the banks that saved
anything: it was the fiat money, printed by the US Federal Reserve, and
ultimately tied to the American taxpayer that saved the so called banks,
which some feel are right back to their old tricks. I do understand that
stocks have to ultimately be tied to production, profit or something, otherwise
the buyer ends up holding what amounts to a chest full of Confederate dollars
that died on April 9, 1865 when the great Robert. E. Lee surrendered the
ill fated and doomed cause of the South. Having been born in Charleston, the
heart of the confederacy, that today, might still be regarded as a traitor's
view. The problems in countries like India is exactly where the US is headed
towards; not from. That is only a personal opinion.

"The 48 hours that killed Lehman and AIG – and would have killed Merrill, Morgan Stanley, and Goldman Sachs within a week if Washington had not stepped in..."

wow, what a wonderful world it would be.

Recession, cession whats the depression.
Putten up with chimpy and BS causes
Recession, cession whats the depression

I mean the white chimp that never was the president
reap it suckers

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