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March 26, 2010

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Let it burn!
This system is not worth saving.

Here's one average middle class American who sold 90% of equity related investments in late 2008 and never got back in. I guess that makes me one of those "'dumb money/investors' doing the opposite of what they should have done to profit handsomely." I may be dumb, but I am not a fool. Even if it means living a simpler life, I'm never going back in. I won't get fooled again. Paper...let it burn!

PERCENTAGE (48% in 2008) of Americans owning stocks is NOT THE ***MEDIAN AMOUNT$ PER INVESTOR***! That would be around $3500.00! The CNBC hypesters just keep up the PROPAGANDA. This market is controlled by PPT, we all know it. Nasdaq up 17 days in a row NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY! 19 of 21 days. Stocks are AT LEAST 30% OVERVALUED, that's if you believe S&P OPERATING P/Es at 23. I submit OPERATING has never been the historical benchmark, REPORTED GAAP is. What's that number?

Now there is an analysis I can believe in. A productive, market-based society needs a couple of things to thrive, at a minimum: a high level of mutual trust and a strong "rule of law" underpinning that can mediate conflicts and enforce agreements/rules when private attempts fail. The past decade has been all about undermining both -- but the breakdown of the trust component has been really achieved in the past three years.

And it's not coming back any time soon. I'm not in the market, and I'm not coming back into the market. Know your counter-parties is my new motto.

I like Swenlin for P/E ratios (he also includes Hussman's calculation. http://www.decisionpoint.com/TAC/SWENLIN.html

The DJIA is at 17 (not so bad) but the S&P is at...

93!

Many financial (ahem) commentators take things one step further: stocks can't fall until the individual investor is heavily invested. Of course, if this were true, there would never be periods of "revulsion" like the market of the '70s, when John Lynch could find bargain stocks walking around the mall. If memory serves, this follows from the intermediate value theorem.

Small Town- thx for the Swenlin link, he is good. It says "fair value" for the S&P (p/e 15) is currently 892. I remember reading Swenlin on financialsense and came to the conclusion the S&P is 30% OVERVALUED, based on $SPX 1165. Of course, this
is all speculation driven by ZeroInterestRatePolicy (ZIRP) to
reflate the stock market, using the Primary Dealers HFT trading desks, because Bernanke thinks the stock market controls the economy.
Here is an excellent blog comment from zerohedge explaining it(hat tip to Mr. Krasting):

by Bruce Krasting
on Sun, 03/28/2010 - 09:16
#278628
So stocks are up 60-70% in a year. And we still have ZIRP. And we will have ZIRP (or something very close to "0") for a long time to come.
So does Benny not believe in this idea that stocks = economy? If so, you would have thought he would have backed off of ZIRP by now.
ZIRP is TARP in slow motion. The banks are earning a ton from their book of assets. This income allows them to absorb losses from crappy assets.
We have a 15T banking system. Because of ZIRP they are earning 2-3% on this book today. That comes to $500b of "extra" income every year. So ZIRP is just a subsidy for the banks.
Who pays for ZIRP? Savers of course. They get nothing for their money. So they buy stocks.
I can't imagine how this crazy imbalance can be brought back into balance without a very big bang at some point.

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