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April 06, 2010

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Perhaps the the generation after WWII was an aberration. Europe and Japan were recovering from WWII and China was a closed communist society. US workers could command excessively high wages because there was so little foreign competition. That's not true any more. In some respect, dysfunctional movie characters like Precious Jones have become the new symbol of a failing America: children having children, incest, obesity etc. Then there are the costly military adventures abroad. The economic future does not look good for today's American youngsters. Their parents should have been more concerned about our failing political class (symbolized by the former corrupt governor of Illinois and the war monger George W. Bush) and less about gays wanting to marry.

from 1950 to 1980 the outstanding private debt
increased 1,624% source ,federal reserve board.maybe
just maybe this idea of a middle class was just an illusion.

You can argue that the Lower class will all have college degrees...Thousands of kids have no jobs...but yet they continue to feed the line that college will lead you to a job.


Yah a job at Walmart

Teachers in some cities in Calif. can make over $100,000. a year at top of the pay scale, for less than 10 months work.
And retire at 55, with 80% of your salary, and free medical.

"financial security that it once carried in the 1950s and 1960" - rember, guys, what changed irrevocably in 1971? Nixon finally took the dollar completely off gold. Becase of imperial overstretch, i.e. war the country couldn't, all told, really afford (and, as I just read yesterday, has now cost over 60,000 losses in veterans due to suicides and thus more than died in action). The US went with a two wheel drive where only four-wheelers dare to venture, now, since Greenspan at the latest, she is revving up every so often only to find herself even deeper mired in the mud. From creditor to debtor nation after winning a World War is a feat that speaks for the prowess with which US politicians and the Fed have tried to wreck the country. It would have been worthier of a better cause! And now, when the middle class would be called upon to once again spawn the likes of the Founding Fathers it lies defeated. Rome comes to mind only they didn't live in world of atomic armaments.

I don’t care who’s in charge of this pig pen rate game, just get the damned rates back up.

This “deflation” stuff is a bogus deal like all the misinformation these days.

I see NO damned “deflation” everything I buy, or pay for is UP, I don’t buy 10 tons of iron ore to dump in my back yard, I buy things I need to live. which the CPI seems to thing don’t need to be counted.

With no COLA and higher co-pays, higher deductibles, and higher fees on licenses its only the rates on savings that help when the rates are at least 4%, this 1% or less is ridicules.

Funny thing is on one hand its all about “health care” and than they cry about the retirees and the “entitlements”. Hell why not just do a Dr Kevorkian or pull a Jim Jones cool aid party and be done with it!

WE PAID into those so called “entitlements” to have them in OUR old age dammit, I paid SS and medicare, and tax on my lousy 78 dollar a month pay as a pvt. when I joined the Army in 64, and even than that was a big chunk out of that income, I ended up with 55 bucks a month. I NEVER used any other type of “entitlements” in my life but for my retired pay after 27 years and now my SS. I lived way under my annual income which was under 20K a year for a long time, I bought a house that cost me less than most paid for their damned SUV’s and paid for the damned thing almost 30 years, and BTW not even being able to deduct the interest cause I had NO DEDUCTIONS at my income. I drove a car I paid 13K for for 18 years, and was still running when i sold it to the junk yard for 125 bucks. I own no pets of any kind to feed or maintain, or kids, I don’t have a degree from any college, but I’m doing OK cause I “saved” and was labeled a “tight wad” by family, I own NO cell phone, no MP3 player, no Ipod, no Ipad, and still use dialup ISP. I don’t need some sorry azz “give it to me now” generation crying about MY damned “entitlements” I sacrificed my life style for.

Low level, what you seem to fail to comprehend is that I will have paid into SS and medicare for my entire life and I will see NOT ONE PENNY of that. I really don't care about your lifestyle - that is your choice. But when you go labeling an entire generation "gimme" people, it doesn't sound like you have a lot of experience with them. In fact, I think you failed to read the two excerpts above.

It used to be you could get a stable, living-wage job with a high school diploma: not any more. It used to be you could buy a house for a reasonable amount (nevermind that you don't have kids, and therefore don't have to worry about school district - the single biggest factor in getting your butt handed to you on buying a house): not any more. Used to be that cars LASTED 18 years, and you could work on one yourself: not any more. Used to be that you weren't tethered to a cell phone or blackberry when you got off work - you were just off work: not any more. Used to be you could pay cash for what they charged for a doctor bill or even an emergency room visit: not any more.

So don't give me your self-important crap. Making ends meet as a family is next to impossible now. If you go to college, which we're told you must to be employed these days (remember, there are no manufacturing jobs any more), you come out with $100,000 worth of debt at age 22 and start your life with that hanging over your head. It's stupid, and I'm seriously thinking about emigrating out of this hell hole. What do you know - maybe if enough of my generation do that, SS and medicare won't go broke after all. NO, wait -- it's your generation that is going to bankrupt them. My bad.

Jim Rogers prefers investing in gas rather than oil :
http://jimrogers1.blogspot.com

@ rogers the "gas investor"

"I really don't care about your lifestyle"

"either", my bad, smirks

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