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May 17, 2010

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Tax reciepts have been way below estimates going on 6 months now. The "line" we are given is that the US is ok as a risk because taxes are low so they could be raised. This ignores how stretched the US middle class really is. Any more tax hikes and rhe rich will walk and the middle clas cannot shoulder the tax burden.

You really do have to wonder about the contrast between perception of our economy and the actual conditions that exist in our economy. How is it possible that policy-makers can have such outlandishly misinformed takes on the national and global economy and base decisions on those views?

Politicians need to learn they can't have their entrepreneurs and eat them too...

You can either foster production or you can tax it into oblivion; but you can't have it both ways.

This is very interesting, I have heard this before, that no matter what you do with taxes, the overall tax rate paid by taxpayers stays right around 20% of GDP. I accept that. What it says to me, though, is that no matter what congress does with taxes, this will always be true, so stop worrying about it, we will never pay more than 20% of GDP.

What I would like to see support for is the assertion that you make that "any major tax increase will reduce GDP and therefore revenues too." I would like to see a chart that shows tax rates vs. GDP. Perhaps you are right, but I'd like to see it rather than accept it as a universal truth.

That 20% figure is fascinating - are there equivalents for other countries?

Isn't the reason revenues went down in 2000 because when Bush came in, he cut taxes on the very rich and he started wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? It will be interesting to see what happens when those tax cuts expire at the end of the year. It would be even better if Obama would gets us out of the Middle East.

I agree we've had the wrong kind of thinking, but it's been on the part of big business, which looks for quick profits at the expense of workers, and our government, which never met a corporation it didn't like.

This article relates to posts about city and state financing through the bond market. A common subject on this site.

http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-05-18/conspiracy-of-banks-rigging-state-finance-converged-with-mortgage-meltdown.html

Starting wars would not make tax revenues decline. If anything, additional defense spending would add to taxes paid by individuals and companies.

Tuesday, May 18, 2010
Goldman Sachs: A moral failing


Joseph Stiglitz: The problem on Wall Street is that we had bought into the idea that
money is everything, and that the metric of whether you are doing well for the economy is how much money you were making for yourself. To me there were two very serious moral failings. One is that so much energy went into exploiting the poorest Americans; selling them houses they knew were beyond their ability to pay, with mortgages that were exploitive. There were people who called themselves mortgage brokers supposedly looking for the best mortgage, but in fact were looking for the worst mortgage. The whole hosts of mortgages that are designed to maximize fees basically rob the poorest people of all their life savings. The irony was that the financial markets were hoisted on their own petard, as I point out in my book. That is to me, one of the most serious moral failings on the part of the financial markets. The second is while Bernie Madoff represented a pyramid scheme engaging in illegal activity, much of what the financial markets were doing was perhaps legal, but clearly unethical, or borderline. That the financial markets did not seem to see much distinction is a severe criticism. A good example is what Goldman Sachs did; how they sold products that they knew were bad, so bad that they were actually selling them short, betting on the fact that they would lose money. The whole debate in their mind is whether what they did was legal or not. The unanimity that it was immoral that they did not disclose to the buyers that they thought these were so crappy that they were going to lose money on them and the fact that they see nothing wrong with that suggests that they live in a parallel universe, a different world, a different moral compass than the rest of society.

http://tinyurl.com/23kwok3

It's BS
You're still pulling your words.... what for? In an interest to garner "credibility"?

Heck, it's all unraveling as we speak. This Ponzi scheme of a government/economic system.

Fraudulent. Simply that.
Just imagine, a system built where as debt.... creates money.
Hello..... earth to humans, you live in a world of FINITE resources and yet you have an economic system that presumes infinite growth.
Hard to reconcile that.
Add rampant crony capitalism/corruption and it spells ...DISASTER.

Enjoy the meltdown .... 'cause America, you've certainly earned it.


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